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MVC 2, Big 10 nada

Monday, March 20th, 2006, by Fred (, No Comments »
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From Bernie Miklasz’s column today:

If Packer had any honor, he’d apologize for going off half-cocked … or at least he should acknowledge that he underrated the MVC’s strength this season.”I don’t expect any apologies, and it isn’t necessary,” [MVC Commissioner Doug] Elgin said before flying home to St. Louis. “It’s not about apologies. It’s about better preparation by network broadcasters. These guys need to look at tape. They need to do their homework about our teams before they criticize us. These commentators need to be as prepared as the selection committee, and I don’t think they are.”

Let’s revisit what Billy Packer said, shall we?

During the interview, Packer said he disagreed with the committee’s decision to give at-large invitations to Wichita State, Bradley, Northern Iowa and George Mason. He cited statistics that indicated teams from the MVC and CAA had won only one game during the last three NCAA tournaments, while teams from the ACC had won 25 games.

Wichita State, Bradley and George Mason are in the Sweet 16, while ACC powers North Carolina and NC State are sitting at home. I’d say someone needs to shut Packer up, but Patrick O’Bryant and Lamar Butler seem to be doing that just fine on their own.

MVC vs ACC, part 2

Thursday, March 16th, 2006, by Fred (, No Comments »
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Bernie Miklasz states the obvious about the boneheaded comments by Billy Packer and Jim Nantz last Sunday:

Packer and his pal Nantz only told half of the story. By dwelling on the number of invitations and bringing up recent NCAA Tournament results to justify the rant, the CBS crew left out one key point of discussion: the seeding in the NCAA Tournament.No one of sound mind will declare that the Missouri Valley Conference is equal to the Atlantic Coast Conference. The number of tournament slots is only one way to measure. And just because the selection committee awarded each league four spots in the tournament, the decision wasn’t a statement on parity.

The selection committee rightfully acknowledged the ACC’s superior status through seeding designations. Duke is a No. 1 seed, North Carolina is a No. 3, Boston College is a No. 4, and N.C. State is a No. 10. The best the Valley got this time around was a No. 7 seed for Wichita State. Northern Iowa is a No. 10, Southern Illinois is a No. 11, and Bradley is a No. 13.

Seeding is, of course, the key. Duke, North Carolina and Georgia Tech have never been seeded worse than a #8. Bernie points out that even the power conferences don’t do as well when they get bad seeds:

From 1994-2005, none of the teams from power conferences had a winning record when seeded No. 6 or worse. Here’s the rundown: ACC (16-18); Big 10 (29-32); Big Eight/12 (21-28); Big East (21-22); Pac 10 (18-19); SEC (10-18).

I drilled down the numbers a bit, and it’s even worse than that. The ACC’s record is skewed by NC State’s upset championship in 1983, when they went 6-0 as a 6 seed. Take that away, and the ACC is only 10-18 (0.357) when seeded 6 or worse. And what about the seeds the Valley actually got this year? The ACC is 13-14 as a 7 seed, 4-2 as a 10 seed, and 0-1 as an 11 seed. No ACC team has ever been a 13 seed. As 1-4 seeds, the ACC is 191-71. As 5 or higher, it drops to 62-53.

Overall, the Valley’s not doing that badly. Double-digit seeds shouldn’t be expected to win, and usually they don’t. Since 1979, teams seeded 10 or higher are 201-653 (.235).
It’s not that the committee gives too much respect to the mid-major conferences like the Valley. It’s that they don’t give enough. Unless you start seeding the conference champion like a true champion, the conference will never get a chance to prove itself. Even Wichita State is going to have to play a 2 seed in the second round. Better yet, the power conferences could start scheduling home-and-home series with the Wichita States of the world, but that’s never going to happen.